Lisha Bell, LaTanya Mapp, Jeanine Abrams McLean – PowerFULL and PlayFULL Women Leading with Love


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Lisha Bell, LaTanya Mapp, Jeanine Abrams McLean – PowerFULL and PlayFULL Women Leading with Love

Host Kristine Michie gathers three powerhouse alumnae—Lisha Bell, LaTanya Mapp, and Jeanine Abrams McLean—for a joy-filled, soul-nourishing reunion on The PlayFull Podcast. This rich conversation navigates the balance between bravery and burnout, and why joy, imagination, and even well-timed pranks are essential tools for resilience in the social impact sector. Whether you're feeling stretched thin or rethinking your next bold move, this episode is a timely reminder of the sacred power of play, purpose, and showing up for yourself—and each other.

Key Takeaways:

  • Rest isn’t abandoning responsibility, but reimagining work through passion and presence instead of burnout.

  • AI-generated gospel music and video in creative activism can deeply engage communities and make civic action culturally resonant.

  • Staying true to your mission amid systemic resistance is both courageous and a form of strategic, long-term resistance.

  • Playfulness and humor are essential tools that boost morale, build connections, and sustain leadership through uncertainty.

  • Racial equity investing requires a steadfast commitment to closing wealth gaps and uplifting historically underfunded communities.

  • Rest, as emphasized by Tricia Hersey and Octavia Raheem, fuels imagination, clarity, and creativity vital to visionary change.

  • Joy often emerges from struggle, reminding us that celebration and resistance can powerfully coexist in dark times.

  • Prioritizing joy, laughter, and play with loved ones becomes a vital wellspring of strength during challenging moments.

  

"We have to be imaginative to get to the future that we want to see." — Jeanine Abrams McLean

"Rest is not to stop... it really is just to do the things that you're incredibly passionate about." — Latanya Mapp

"Take naps. Take a sabbatical, take that time away, because life will keep life-ing all the time, and I just really want to encourage people to just take a break from things." — Lisha Bell

About our Changemakers:

  • Jeanine Abrams McLean is the President of Fair Count, where she leads national efforts to ensure equitable census participation, redistricting, and year-round civic engagement. Drawing from her previous experience as a scientist at the CDC's STD prevention lab, she combines data, culture, and community power to strengthen democratic participation. [LinkedIn]

  • Latanya Mapp is a global philanthropy leader and former U.S. Foreign Service Officer with decades of experience in international development. Currently in a period of professional reset, she serves on the boards of Chanel and Luminate, teaches at Columbia University, and continues to coach and support professionals navigating career transitions. [LinkedIn]

  • Lisha Bell is a seasoned tech innovator and economic justice advocate who leads PayPal Ventures’ $100M Economic Opportunity Fund, co-hosts the Sisters with Ventures podcast, and champions capital access for underrepresented founders through investments, storytelling, and ecosystem-building. [LinkedIn]

Connect with Kristine:

Website: https://www.impactfullinc.com/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/impactfull_inc

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristine-breese-michie/ 



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